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Episode 16 - Should you hire Mark?

February 04, 2022

Tim tries to interview Mark and it goes completely off the rails (not the Ruby kind). Mark finally watched Tim’s TEDx talk and has changed his art show project completely. Somehow Mark’s a teacher that doesn’t teach a lot of things, but eventually he’ll be a rock start ninja developer.

Chapters

00:00 - An Awkward Start
02:39 - But What About You?
03:42 - Communication
07:04 - The Technical Interview
10:03 - MVC Isn’t MVC
14:38 - The Distraction Technique
14:56 - Dependency Injection
15:41 - PHP Traits
17:02 - Multiple Inheritance
17:49 - Inheritance vrs Composition
20:24 - How We Teach OOP
25:44 - Not the Computer Science Department
26:42 - Josh Miller
28:15 - Do You Even Teach?
28:46 - Mark’s Update
29:32 - The Claw Vision
30:36 - More Controversy
33:52 - It’s Unreal
36:53 - Maybe an Oculus
38:50 - All Circled Up
40:57 - Things Get Ugly
42:12 - Generally a Specialist
44:09 - The Full Stack Developer
50:48 - A Rock Star Ninja
51:31 - Tim’s TEDx Talk
54:56 - Behind the Scenes
58:15 - BattleSnakes

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  1. September 27, 2024

    In another early-morning episode Mark talks about ramping down the last AWS consultant, while Tim is searching for infographic tools to help…

  2. September 20, 2024

    Way too early in the morning Mark contemplates AWS automations and his standing desk setup. Tim talks Synology NAS setups, and why it might…

  3. August 23, 2024

    Tim’s VLC troubleshooting leads to an unexpected Hardy Boys reference, and he proudly shares news of his daughter’s book project. Mark keeps…

  4. August 16, 2024

    Tim starts with some exciting news—he ran into actual listeners at php[tek] (now months ago)! Mark, of course, keeps things grounded with…

  5. August 09, 2024

    After a ‘little break’, Mark’s out of academia and diving into AWS microservices. Tim enjoys the role reversal as Mark gets to talk about…

  6. April 19, 2024

    Mark stalks his interviewers’ LinkedIn profiles as he prepares for his next interview. Tim reminds him about the potential of tiny…

  7. April 12, 2024

    Mark shares tales of his bellhop days as Tim recounts the puppeteering gigs of his youth. They debate the pros and cons of refilling ink…

  8. April 05, 2024

    Tim dreams of automating the entire podcast workflow while Mark just wants to finally get to the topic: WordPress. And it turns out…

  9. March 29, 2024

    Tim and Mark dive into headless CMS and why you might want to build a custom site. Mark fondly remembers the glory days of RollerCoaster…

  10. March 22, 2024

    Mark took a 3 mile run to burn off his excitement about streaming to switch, and then pulled Tim into a trip down memory lane. Eventually…

  11. March 15, 2024

    Mark updates his bio, and Tim remembers the bygone era of SSL certificates. They both have opened up a desktop recently and no one wants to…

  12. March 08, 2024

    Dive into the chaos of a podcast’s journey where Tim dreams of a book deal about our audio misadventures, and Mark, as usual, is ready to…

  13. December 15, 2023

    Tim is curious how far Mark got in advent of code, Mark wants to know about gifts for geeks this year, and Tim’s been doing some practical…

  14. December 08, 2023

    Mark tries to do Advent of Code using C, and Tim doesn’t think impromptu meetings are a good idea - at least for a while. Chapters 00:1…

  15. December 01, 2023

    Tim talks trees, fake vrs real and Mark dives headfirst into the Advent of Code. You know it’s the Christmas season because we’ve dusted off…

  16. November 24, 2023

    Mark talks stacks this Black Friday, and is coming around to HTMX. He talks more abound Lambda, and puts Tim on the spot with a question…

  17. October 20, 2023

    We’ve been crashing other podcast parties, and talk about contract dev shenanigans. Plus being old in a world of never ending learning. Tim…

  18. October 13, 2023

    Tim’s hoping AI can take over the show notes, and opines on kidney stone zapping technology. Mark’s still talking cloud platform…

  19. September 22, 2023

    Mark’s ditched his screens for one sleek laptop, and now he’s suddenly all ‘Zen’ about it. Tim wonders about the mysteries of a laptop’s…

  20. August 18, 2023

    Tim barely survives a family reunion turned gel blaster battlefield, and Mark wonders why going back to work feels like recovering from a…

  21. August 04, 2023

    Tim’s not sure Mark knows the difference between a recruiter and a recruitment center, Mark reminisces about space camp, and AI is now…

  22. July 21, 2023

    Mark gets here early, Tim forgets to hit record, and they talk about imaginary ownership of warehoused artwork. Mark builds a one day SaaS…

  23. July 14, 2023

    Tim welcomes the first show sponsor, then Mark opines on reptile husbandry before waxing eloquent about serverless on AWS. Chapters 00:0…

  24. June 30, 2023

    Tim makes the case for building his own computer, Mark talks about the invasion of privacy certification test are, and they both have…

  25. June 09, 2023

    Tim and Mark go public with how little they know about data lakes, Mark’s working on some certifications, and Tim wonders what makes a…

  26. June 02, 2023

    It may not be the 100th episode, but it is the start of the ‘Summer of Mark’. Mark tries to lay out his plan for finding a new job, but Tim…

  27. May 26, 2023

    Tim talks about php[tek] highlights, while Mark laments the fact that events like WWDC and Google IO have become less developer focused. Tim…

  28. May 12, 2023

    Super glue? Mark has no idea what podcast he’s landed on. Tim has no idea what Bluesky is, but he has opinions. Mark’s getting more public…

  29. May 05, 2023

    Eventually Tim explains what hypermedia is, but first Mark reinstalled Windows and loves Chocolatey - the windows package manger. Tim has…

  30. April 28, 2023

    Tabs vrs Spaces: Tim tries to add more controversial opinions. Mark’s putting together demos for his last class (maybe forever), and they…

  31. April 21, 2023

    Resuming the conversation for last week, Mark gets distracted by Tim actually writing code before the show starts, and then everything goes…

  32. April 14, 2023

    They can’t not talk about AI, Mark teases a spicy topic that they don’t get to until the end of show, because they’re distracted by…

  34. March 24, 2023

    Mark still doesn’t like frameworks, and is showing his students the difference between server side Javascript and PHP. Tim thinks Google…

  35. March 17, 2023

    Mark is still encouraging ChatGPT to replace him, which is just a calculator, right? Tim uses AI to generate the topics for this show, and…

  36. March 10, 2023

    Tim has a topic, but first we talk about what Mark’s been programming during spring break. And of course VIM. Tim gives the long version on…

  37. February 24, 2023

    In an episode that is not brought to you by php[tek], Tim dreams about writing a kids book about an elephpant, Mark wonders about how a…

  39. January 20, 2023

    It’s 2023 and Mark’s still on linux and won’t ever go back. Tim’s writing novels for his kids using ChatGPT, and Mark’s ready for him to be…

  40. December 23, 2022

    Tim has a topic list, but he didn’t write it down. They talk about holiday plans, projection mapping, and then Mark gets some free API…

  41. December 09, 2022

    Mark updates on his students final projects, Tim talks about cooking show comments, and they talk about clever code vrs understandable code…

  42. November 25, 2022

    Tim talks about his crazy Thanksgiving week, while Mark tries to guilt people into buying him a new laptop, considers the value of…

  43. November 18, 2022

    Mark longs for better types, and Tim talks about how much data he willingly gives Walmart. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  44. November 04, 2022

    Tim barely remembers to hit record and Mark cuts himself shaving. Someone is totally stealing your fries. And Tim’s very interested in the…

  45. October 28, 2022

    Mark talks about how he wants to remove his social media presence, and then doxxes himself. Tim thinks we should all just go back to RSS…

  46. October 21, 2022

    Mark is finally dockerized, now that he’s back on linux. Tim talks about YakShaving (TM) and automation, and wonders if computers are trying…

  47. October 14, 2022

    Mark’s has his finger on the pulse of the industry and is wondering if penetration testers are the new SEO experts. He’s also switched to…

  48. October 07, 2022

    Tim asks Mark about how games are built. At least how asteroid is built. Nostalgia ensues. Then they talk about the developer desire to…

  49. September 30, 2022

    Mark runs some API interview questions by Tim, and Tim (finally) tells the story about interviewing himself. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  50. September 23, 2022

    Mark talks about how he’s blowing student’s minds, and Tim talks about creating APIs in PHP and abstract syntax trees. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  51. September 16, 2022

    Mark queries Tim on the right stack to use for API First development. Tim SOAPboxes about REST and GraphQL. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  52. September 09, 2022

    Back in the groove and feeling a little old, Mark tries to find the top 5 alternatives to Upwork. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  53. September 02, 2022

    After an unannounced summer break Mark and Tim return having forgotten how to do a podcast. Tim rants about why you should go to tek…

  54. July 08, 2022

    Mark brings up the topic everyone is already talking about, but before getting to AI assisted programming they talk about learning human…

  55. June 24, 2022

    It looks like Mark is still teaching, and Tim talks about a recent internal developer team meeting. Since Mark is now helping python…

  56. June 03, 2022

    Well, it may be the 30th episode, but it’s Tim’s 40th birthday. And unlike Mark, he’s shares that detail. Mark talks about Fleet, debugging…

  57. May 27, 2022

    After a two week break Tim mentions that it is not his birthday, and Mark has some new ideas about the show format, and brings the topic of…

  59. April 29, 2022

    Emoji in git commits, event-sourcing, Tim eats lunch, and they talk about their non green-screen backgrounds. Chapters 00:00 - TBD

  62. April 01, 2022

    This week they talk about all the games they’ve never written, Mark complains that JetBrains makes him use his mouse too much, and did you…

  63. March 25, 2022

    Tim convinces Mark to use an IDE as he learns C++ in his sleep. And they talk about leaning new things, how mystical the client side code is…

  64. March 18, 2022

    This week Tim realizes Mark is a walking compromise with his Linux on Windows, Emacs in Vim mode lifestyle. But at least he’s trying to…

  65. March 11, 2022

    Mark’s site disappears, he can’t dual boot and play games, and the future or Linux on Mark’s desktop hangs in the balance. Tim is still…

  66. March 04, 2022

    This week they both forget to hit record, but end up planning Mark’s MVP of his side-project. Along the way there’s some Windows / Linux…

  67. February 25, 2022

    Today Mark and Tim totally don’t get political because Tim obviously doesn’t know what political is. They both aren’t fans of facial…

  68. February 18, 2022

    This week Mark and Tim talk about some of their person projects and the progress they haven’t made on them. Turns out they’re also getting…

  69. February 11, 2022

    If AI can’t figure out how to play an album, we don’t have much to worry about. Except maybe Mark becoming a lawyer, or our Chinese phones…

  70. February 04, 2022

    Tim tries to interview Mark and it goes completely off the rails (not the Ruby kind). Mark finally watched Tim’s TEDx talk and has changed…

  72. January 21, 2022

    Totally unprepared as normal. Mark has given up his green screen and almost installed linux on his desktop. They eventually talk about what…

  74. January 07, 2022

    At least we made it into a new year. Back to the old (but updated) bumper, and we talk about Mark not having a green screen anymore. Mark’s…

  75. December 31, 2021

    Mark tries to get Tim to make new year’s resolutions, and gives his top three resolutions. All designed to get him his next job. Which might…

  78. December 10, 2021

    After two weeks away Mark and Tim are back talking about something. Well really everything. Birthdays, Covid, Christmas, and Raspberry Pies…

  79. December 03, 2021

    After two weeks away Mark and Tim are back talking about something. Well really everything. Birthdays, Covid, Christmas, and Raspberry Pies…

  81. November 05, 2021

    Neither Mark nor Tim understand each other’s tweets. So we should talk about that. But we actually don’t. A continuing conversation about…

  82. October 29, 2021

    Half podcast, half Mark’s therapy, two developers chat at the end of the week and things get personal. From refactoring code to refactoring…

  84. October 15, 2021

    Now we know how little we know about what we’re doing. Mark asks Tim about his ‘origin’ story - at least how he started programming, and…

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Mark Koberlein

Cloud Engineer, Professor, and former Japan tour guide.

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Tim Lytle

Bible Believer, API / Platform Guy, Developer @phoneburner, @lvtech Wrangler, former @beckoncall  & DevRel @nexmo, Future Futurist, Sometime Writer & Speaker

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